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Post by jaypeefriend on Oct 13, 2020 13:04:38 GMT -8
Now only 62 on Metacritic with all positive and one mixed review counted. This is done. Not necessarily, many Best Actress nominees have a Metascore of 50's-60's, a few even in the 40's: Judy (Zellwegger), Harriet (Cynthia Errivo), The Blind Side (Bullock), The Help (Viola Davis), The Iron Lady (Streep), Joy (Jennifer Lawrence), Albert Nobbs (Glenn Close) , August Ausage County (Streep and Roberts), Elizabeth Golden Age (Blanchett), North Country (Theron and McDormand) etc... Actually, 3 of of the Best Actress nominees last year have a Metascore of low 60's (Theron, Zellwegger, and Errivo) |
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Post by dasadbd28 on Oct 13, 2020 13:08:25 GMT -8
I'll be happy to see Michelle get a globe nomination for this but I don't see her getting an Oscar nom.
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Post by Admin on Oct 13, 2020 13:13:46 GMT -8
Now only 62 on Metacritic with all positive and one mixed review counted. This is done. Not necessarily, many Best Actress nominees have a Metascore of 50's-60's, a few even in the 40's: Judy (Zellwegger), Harriet (Cynthia Errivo), The Blind Side (Bullock), The Help (Viola Davis), The Iron Lady (Streep), Joy (Jennifer Lawrence), Albert Nobbs (Glenn Close) , August Ausage County (Streep and Roberts), Elizabeth Golden Age (Blanchett), North Country (Theron and McDormand) etc... Actually, 3 of of the Best Actress nominees last year have a Metascore of low 60's (Theron, Zellwegger, and Errivo) True, but Streep was playing a super baity role (real person) as was Zellweger, same with Cynthia. JLaw is a young blonde superstar, Blanchett is in the same class as Streep to the Oscars. Sadly, for a light comedy/drama with a low score, I just don't think Michelle has a great shot. |
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Post by jaypeefriend on Oct 13, 2020 13:20:43 GMT -8
There are many angles to campaign. She can play the overdue veteran card (that's one way of doing it).
You guys give up way too quickly. I'm not going to dismiss her chances right now when pundits who predict Oscars for a living are saying she has a good shot, she's getting rave reviews, and Sony has a campaign plan for her (unless they cancel it).
Honestly, I'll probably only let go of it once every contender is seen, and pretty much every pundit takes her out of their predictions. I feel like it's too early to say she won't make it and won't have a chance.
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on Oct 13, 2020 13:21:20 GMT -8
I'd like to add my contribution to the list of Best Actress nominees with atrocious critical scores attached to their movies in the form of our very own Michelle with Love Field at a whopping 40% LOL I know it was a different time with awards back in the 90s and there could be some truth to the notion that she got the nom as a consolation prize cuz ppl felt uncomfortable voting for a comic book adaptation even tho her work as Catwoman was worthy.
But still, in prep for French Exit, I looked up all her Oscar movies and yea, I knew there'd be a difference in score between it and the others, but didn't expect THAT low lol
Also, if I never have to watch The Blind Side, The Help, The Iron Lady, Bombshell or Harriet EVER again, I shall die happy!! LOL
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Post by jorgepagaza on Oct 13, 2020 19:28:32 GMT -8
There are many angles to campaign. She can play the overdue veteran card (that's one way of doing it). You guys give up way too quickly. I'm not going to dismiss her chances right now when pundits who predict Oscars for a living are saying she has a good shot, she's getting rave reviews, and Sony has a campaign plan for her (unless they cancel it). Honestly, I'll probably only let go of it once every contender is seen, and pretty much every pundit takes her out of their predictions. I feel like it's too early to say she won't make it and won't have a chance. I absolutely agree with you on this. I´m not giving up! Critics and people are excited about her performance saying how marvelous she is while most of us, fans, are just saying how good it could´ve been and how she is not getting nominated. Even Nathaniel has disappointed me. A shame.  |
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Post by pfanfph on Oct 13, 2020 19:33:51 GMT -8
Question though: Is the movie that you guys watched the final cut already, or will they still have a chance to tweak it more? If any of you who watched felt there was a scene/scenes that seemed unnecessary, or if there was a type of scene you wished could have been included...
Based from what I'm hearing here, I think Michelle could still have a path to an Oscar if she's seen as overdue and/or as a wild card. Like The Iron Lady for instance, not even Fresh on RT, but there was a prevailing air of "Give Meryl her 3rd Oscar already!". And on the other hand, I seem to remember the 2018 Best Actress race oscillating between Gaga and Glenn Close then ultimately ending up with Coleman. Though to be fair, The Favourite was a major competitor that year, which FE doesn't seem to be shaping up to me. Could be one of, or a combination of both dynamics playing out here...
Disclaimer though, this is all just a bunch of armchair punditry from someone who hasn't even seen French Exit, lol...
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on Oct 13, 2020 19:36:35 GMT -8
Jacobs only just finished the film last Tuesday. It’s possible changes could be made before February
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on Oct 13, 2020 19:38:14 GMT -8
Question though: Is the movie that you guys watched the final cut already, or will they still have a chance to tweak it more? If any of you who watched felt there was a scene/scenes that seemed unnecessary, or if there was a type of scene you wished could have been included... Based from what I'm hearing here, I think Michelle could still have a path to an Oscar if she's seen as overdue and/or as a wild card. Like The Iron Lady for instance, not even Fresh on RT, but there was a prevailing air of "Give Meryl her 3rd Oscar already!". And on the other hand, I seem to remember the 2018 Best Actress race oscillating between Gaga and Glenn Close then ultimately ending up with Coleman. Though to be fair, The Favourite was a major competitor that year, which FE doesn't seem to be shaping up to me. Could be one of, or a combination of both dynamics playing out here... Disclaimer though, this is all just a bunch of armchair punditry from someone who hasn't even seen French Exit, lol... The “talent show” scene from the book. It’s got a great moment for Frances in it. |
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on Oct 13, 2020 19:39:09 GMT -8
There are many angles to campaign. She can play the overdue veteran card (that's one way of doing it). You guys give up way too quickly. I'm not going to dismiss her chances right now when pundits who predict Oscars for a living are saying she has a good shot, she's getting rave reviews, and Sony has a campaign plan for her (unless they cancel it). Honestly, I'll probably only let go of it once every contender is seen, and pretty much every pundit takes her out of their predictions. I feel like it's too early to say she won't make it and won't have a chance. I absolutely agree with you on this. I´m not giving up! Critics and people are excited about her performance saying how marvelous she is while most of us, fans, are just saying how good it could´ve been and how she is not getting nominated. Even Nathaniel has disappointed me. A shame. Most fans, but not all ✊ |
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Post by Admin on Oct 13, 2020 19:49:26 GMT -8
Question though: Is the movie that you guys watched the final cut already, or will they still have a chance to tweak it more? If any of you who watched felt there was a scene/scenes that seemed unnecessary, or if there was a type of scene you wished could have been included... Based from what I'm hearing here, I think Michelle could still have a path to an Oscar if she's seen as overdue and/or as a wild card. Like The Iron Lady for instance, not even Fresh on RT, but there was a prevailing air of "Give Meryl her 3rd Oscar already!". And on the other hand, I seem to remember the 2018 Best Actress race oscillating between Gaga and Glenn Close then ultimately ending up with Coleman. Though to be fair, The Favourite was a major competitor that year, which FE doesn't seem to be shaping up to me. Could be one of, or a combination of both dynamics playing out here... Disclaimer though, this is all just a bunch of armchair punditry from someone who hasn't even seen French Exit, lol... Hard to say, in a new article/interview today, Azazel talked about when he first saw the final cut. But I mean, is anything ever really final? He could still go back and work on it, I would think. As for scenes I would cut or go back and include (if they even filmed them to begin with) : {SPOILER! CLICK ME IF YOU DARE!}The first half hour is pretty slow moving and it just takes a bit to get going. I'd also cut some scenes from Paris, when they first get there, walking around. I am bitterly disappointed that so many lines were left out, that would have made it way funnier and made her even more acidic. Also they left out the scene where she almost sleeps with the captain of the cruise ship. That also would have been funny to see. The third act is such a bore and missed some magic. Even the talking to the cat through the candle was boring! They clearly were not all on, in my opinion, they tried to make it seem too normal like they were afraid of it being too out there and that hurt it greatly |
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Post by Pfeiffer-Pfan on Oct 14, 2020 1:19:52 GMT -8
I'm not expecting any wins, but I'm hoping for a few nominations. I think we'd all be happy with that.
She needs to play a real life person in a weighty drama. She plays Ruth Madoff and BOOM... Globe and Emmy nominations.
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Post by michaelh on Oct 14, 2020 2:48:17 GMT -8
I liked the film. Certain things worked better than others.
The pacing was off in places. It dragged quite a bit in the third act. The payoff wasn't there in some of the later scenes. I wanted those scenes to have more life, more spark, more vigor.
But I loved Michelle in this - she went big and I loved her as Frances. The memes she gave us will far outlive the fallout over the film, which was bound to be divisive anyway.
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Post by Alex on Oct 14, 2020 8:54:52 GMT -8
Don't be so pessimistic, if they choose that is Michelle time to win Oscar, they will give her the Oscar. As they did with Julianne Moore in the so so 'Still Alice' (and wasn't the best of her acting career).
If people like Emma Stone, Sally Field, Sandra Bullock, Monique, Marlee MatlinJennifer Lawrence won... the Oscars, many time, are a joke and unfair. Remenber the honorary award to Jackiie Chan, ah, ha,ha and not giving and honorary to legend and great actress Eleanor Parker...
And Oscars to best picture like Gladiator, A Beautiful Mind, Crash, Kramer Vs Kramer, Spotligh??? I don't care very much
about Oscars and this year only will see the cerimony if Michelle, Sigourney or Glen are nominated.
Nathaniel is very pessimistic
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Post by Admin on Oct 14, 2020 9:36:09 GMT -8
What's really stupid about the Oscars is, trash like Hillbilly Elegy, which we all know looks terrible and will probably get panned more than FE, will get a bunch of noms and Glenn will win for it (she has a super strong narrative though, coming off a shocking loss). Because it's more accessible and "Oscar friendly". Same thing with Bohemian Rhapsody, a truly terrible movie with a terrible perf. from Malek and it won a bunch of awards just because it made a ton of money and basic ass people loved it. Meanwhile good indie films don't even stand a chance. So whatever. Over it.
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on Oct 14, 2020 10:02:30 GMT -8
Hillbilly Elegy looks like such a 90s network TV movie. If that's what passes as "highly anticipated," they can have it. I'm hopeful for Close cuz she always brings it and looks to be giving a performance that's better than that movie probably is. But no way Adams stands a chance here with McDormand already having the downtrodden, de-glammed entry for the year, especially if that's what the film looks like. Man, even the title feels right outta SNL
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Post by Admin on Oct 14, 2020 10:18:34 GMT -8
This is now at 53 on Metacritic and only one of the bad reviews has been added. They still have to add the good ones too, at least 2 or 3 80s.This might finish in the 40s or more likely mid 50s. Even if I didn't like the film, it wasn't THAT bad.
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on Oct 14, 2020 10:31:45 GMT -8
We'll see what February looks like for this film. A lot of these outlets will more than likely review it again with different critics who didn't catch it at the fest. Usually the way it goes...
Meanwhile, ugh, I'm surprised at how bummed out I am about Turn of Mind's status change. I wasn't looking forward to it, per say, but it's like now it's more or less official that Michelle doesn't have anything coming up. I know I shouldn't complain given how I've just seen a new film from her which I love and can't wait to see again.
Eh, I guess I'm just greedy lol
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Post by roald on Oct 14, 2020 10:38:57 GMT -8
We'll see what February looks like for this film. A lot of these outlets will more than likely review it again with different critics who didn't catch it at the fest. Usually the way it goes... Meanwhile, ugh, I'm surprised at how bummed out I am about Turn of Mind's status change. I wasn't looking forward to it, per say, but it's like now it's more or less official that Michelle doesn't have anything coming up. I know I shouldn't complain given how I've just seen a new film from her which I love and can't wait to see again. Eh, I guess I'm just greedy lol Wait didn't she say recently that she had something lined up? |
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on Oct 14, 2020 10:45:49 GMT -8
Yea, but nothing more than that...and no announcement since, so who knows lol
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Post by pfanfph on Oct 14, 2020 19:38:03 GMT -8
I presume that her newfound work with EWG and Henry Rose is taking a chunk of her time and focus. I mean she technically did say she intended to "work" a lot, not necessarily "act", hehe! For all we know, she's starting to look at her acting career as secondary now. Kinda makes sense, we all know how uncomfortable she's always been with the pomp and circumstance of Hollywood. I just hope she continues to keep herself out there enough to keep us satisfied.
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Post by michaelh on Oct 15, 2020 2:48:59 GMT -8
I'm not ready to fall on the sword of defeat just yet or relegate her to retail merchandizing purgatory either.
She'll get a GG nomination and maybe an Oscar nom too unless SCP bails on her or the film is dismissed by voters.
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Post by michaelh on Oct 15, 2020 9:38:52 GMT -8
A rave from Forbes. www.forbes.com/sites/jeffewing/2020/10/14/nyff-2020-french-exit-is-an-excellent-absurd-romp-with-memorable-performances/#63c4d4b0199f"Directed by Azazel Jacobs (The Lovers) from a script by Patrick deWitt (who also wrote the novel the script adapts), the script is a charming and curious romp that gets better the harder it commits to situational absurdity. Jacobs’s skilled direction maintains an engaging pace and larger-than-life tone that really sell the stranger, funnier aspects of the script. Pfeiffer deserves commendation as well for building a memorable character—her larger-than-life widower flaunts lofty expectations and energetic charisma. While Pfeiffer’s long been an esteemed actress, this is easily one of her more memorable (and fun) roles in recent memory." |
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Post by Admin on Oct 15, 2020 15:23:15 GMT -8
I presume that her newfound work with EWG and Henry Rose is taking a chunk of her time and focus. I mean she technically did say she intended to "work" a lot, not necessarily "act", hehe! For all we know, she's starting to look at her acting career as secondary now. Kinda makes sense, we all know how uncomfortable she's always been with the pomp and circumstance of Hollywood. I just hope she continues to keep herself out there enough to keep us satisfied. Oh gosh, I hope not.  |
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on Oct 15, 2020 15:51:41 GMT -8
Same. That's always been my fear since I first heard about her outside ventures. The one thing everyone (except that grouch from The Guardian) agrees about French Exit was how great she was it in and what a fantastic part it was for her. My hope is that all that praise and the overall experience of making the film continues to inspire her to keep going. Hmm, is that older female character role in Babylon still available?? Regardless, her work these last three years have been a gift and have also shown she's still hungry. Oh, plz plz plz stay hungry, Michelle!!!!!!!!
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Post by Admin on Oct 15, 2020 16:52:54 GMT -8
Pfeiffer is featured in the next issue of EW, called "The Oscar Race Begins". Name is on the cover. Siiiighhh. Not sure if she will have a new photo for this issue or if it's just a write-up on the film. Looks like her PR team was all set to try a campaign. Let's see if it continues.  |
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Post by Admin on Oct 19, 2020 7:27:41 GMT -8
They still have not posted the story on their website. I hope it includes a new photo shoot of her. Or at least a new still from the film. It's getting tiring just seeing that same one posted over and over lol.
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Post by roald on Oct 19, 2020 11:09:10 GMT -8
They still have not posted the story on their website. I hope it includes a new photo shoot of her. Or at least a new still from the film. It's getting tiring just seeing that same one posted over and over lol. Totally agree with you. We need more stills!  |
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Post by jaypeefriend on Oct 20, 2020 10:29:32 GMT -8
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Post by roald on Oct 20, 2020 10:44:46 GMT -8
Looks like our prayers have been answered  Love the picture! |
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