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Post by Admin on Sept 1, 2018 13:33:56 GMT -8
I think it´s plain stupid what she´s done here. I´m utterly disappointed she is an actress moved by the money and not by professional values. Some people say she does not owe anything, but we are owed an explanation because we have been quite supportive when it has been required. We have done campaigning on social networks, messaged critics, bought the movie on video, etc. I am really pissed. I'm not going to say it's stupid, because we just don't have all the facts, but I agree it's disappointing at least. Maybe we will get the full story someday.
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on Sept 1, 2018 14:15:01 GMT -8
I really choose to believe she was unhappy with the release and the way the movie was treated overall by the industry, that she's refusing to promote it. I can also see this turning her off from indies since both this and Personal Effects (her only two real indies) were tossed to the side, essentially.
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Post by michaelh on Sept 2, 2018 4:11:43 GMT -8
When she was interviewed at the Antman premiere and said 'I'm all about the experience now' (or words to that effect) when talking about filming I very much thought that was her saying 'I'll never do A Where is Kyra? Type film Ever again'. She's a movie star and she wants to be treated like one. A friend of mine worked on Cheri and he didn't have a great impression of her as she was acting like it was a big budget films and it wasn't. I'd probably be the same haha. You could be right about that quote. But I wonder why she did this kind of film to begin with then? Do you think maybe she felt forced into it a bit by her agent or management, like maybe they thought it would be an Oscar chance for her so they thought she should take it? You bring up another good point, I think she sees herself more as a movie star and not as a serious actress, she has made comments like that before, the problem is, she is a GREAT actress, especially with drama. I wish she had more confidence in her abilities. She's so much better at these roles than in Dark Shadows, but Bond is right in that regard, if that's not how she sees herself, we should live with it, no matter how frustrating it is. I don’t read her comment about “being all about the experience now” as a rebuke to Kyra / indie films or that she sees herself as a movie star first and an actress second. There is nothing in those words that makes me go “oh, she’s done with serious films” and is in it strictly for the money. That’s a huge leap. She may have been referring to the experience of acting, not walking red carpets in designer gowns or staying in five star hotels for a fee. I’m not convinced that she won’t sign to do another indie if the part and the film appeal to her. I just hope her alleged refusal to do press for Kyra and the hard feelings expressed by the producer don’t keep her from getting similar opportunities in the future. And to that point, wouldn’t her refusal to do press put her in breach of contract if those words were in her deal? She may well have been very clear upfront about not agreeing to do any press unless she was happy with the film. We simply don’t know. Michelle is so measured in interviews that it’s difficult to figure out how she views herself. I don’t consider her any less of an actress than Moore or Kidman, for example, if given the kinds of the roles they’ve been offered. Granted, Michelle is far more reserved in her tastes and less prone to baring all for her art. She refused to put on weight for Cheri according to Stephen Frears, but something like that doesn’t make her any less talented or committed to acting in my playbook. She didn’t seem to shy away from unflattering lighting in Kyra or the Madoff film. I strongly agree with the sentiments expressed here about supporting indie filmmakers who make very little money and who put their artistry ahead of big paychecks. These filmmakers need all the help they can get. Selfishly, I want them to succeed because human scale films are far more interesting to me than comic book blockbusters. I hope Michelle understands that doing those kinds of film and promoting them helps her industry and improves her chances of getting great roles in the future.
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Post by GOYANKEES718 on Sept 2, 2018 9:35:02 GMT -8
IF Ms. Pfeiffer burned bridges with important producers who work with heralded directors such as Todd Haynes & Luca Guadagnino on a regular basis due to her desire for a little extra cash then I say Ms. Pfeiffer deserves all of the flack she receives. Last time I checked Ms. Pfeiffer was worth millions of dollars / Good luck to her trying to land a plum part in any of those directors movies in the future
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Post by johnjohn on Sept 2, 2018 9:46:18 GMT -8
All speculations, every story has two sides. The producer has mentioned her name and then it is only fair to give a reason. Well that didn't happen so then he shouldn't have mentioned it. I'll give her absolutely the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on Sept 2, 2018 10:11:14 GMT -8
IF Ms. Pfeiffer burned bridges with important producers who work with heralded directors such as Todd Haynes & Luca Guadagnino on a regular basis due to her desire for a little extra cash then I say Ms. Pfeiffer deserves all of the flack she receives. Last time I checked Ms. Pfeiffer was worth millions of dollars / Good luck to her trying to land a plum part in any of those directors movies in the future Well most actress can cross those directors off their wish lists anyhow since they're both seem to like casting Julianne Moore and Tilda Swinton, respectively. Just like Assayas has a thing for putting Juliette Binoche in his movies.
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Post by Admin on Sept 2, 2018 10:44:44 GMT -8
All speculations, every story has two sides. The producer has mentioned her name and then it is only fair to give a reason. Well that didn't happen so then he shouldn't have mentioned it. I'll give her absolutely the benefit of the doubt. Very true.
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Post by saran1 on Sept 2, 2018 14:03:04 GMT -8
When she was interviewed at the Antman premiere and said 'I'm all about the experience now' (or words to that effect) when talking about filming I very much thought that was her saying 'I'll never do A Where is Kyra? Type film Ever again'. She's a movie star and she wants to be treated like one. A friend of mine worked on Cheri and he didn't have a great impression of her as she was acting like it was a big budget films and it wasn't. I'd probably be the same haha. hehe she was being a diva? U guys think I should reply again to the producer? I am scared to do it now
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Post by Admin on Sept 2, 2018 19:17:28 GMT -8
When she was interviewed at the Antman premiere and said 'I'm all about the experience now' (or words to that effect) when talking about filming I very much thought that was her saying 'I'll never do A Where is Kyra? Type film Ever again'. She's a movie star and she wants to be treated like one. A friend of mine worked on Cheri and he didn't have a great impression of her as she was acting like it was a big budget films and it wasn't. I'd probably be the same haha. hehe she was being a diva? U guys think I should reply again to the producer? I am scared to do it now Up to you, obviously, but probably for the best if you just let it go. I kind of doubt she'd say much more anyway?
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Post by morrisseybond on Sept 3, 2018 0:08:12 GMT -8
hehe she was being a diva? U guys think I should reply again to the producer? I am scared to do it now Up to you, obviously, but probably for the best if you just let it go. I kind of doubt she'd say much more anyway? Yeah I think just leave her alone, as I said at the beginning, they had so much to deal with and a lot of struggling, obviously it's not up to them now so just don't give them more headache. But you can harass Paladin instead lol
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Post by dasadbd28 on Sept 3, 2018 3:55:57 GMT -8
Unfortunately this film was never going anywhere awards wise. This film was doomed the moment nobody picked it up during Sundance and Michelle's glowing reviews.
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Post by GOYANKEES718 on Sept 3, 2018 11:38:00 GMT -8
IF Ms. Pfeiffer burned bridges with important producers who work with heralded directors such as Todd Haynes & Luca Guadagnino on a regular basis due to her desire for a little extra cash then I say Ms. Pfeiffer deserves all of the flack she receives. Last time I checked Ms. Pfeiffer was worth millions of dollars / Good luck to her trying to land a plum part in any of those directors movies in the future Well most actress can cross those directors off their wish lists anyhow since they're both seem to like casting Julianne Moore and Tilda Swinton, respectively. Just like Assayas has a thing for putting Juliette Binoche in his movies. babyfacedassassin24: My point was these producers know important directors and acting like this Ms. Pfeiffer could hurt her chances down the line not only with them but other directors that are friends with these directors and producers. The other bigger point is Ms. Pfeiffer is wealthy already not a starving artist; She is worth millions; she can afford to promote a little movie for nothing. Did you not see the recent story about the actor who starred on The COSBY Show decades ago who was pictured bagging groceries in recent days? This man still acts but has to take a sidejob because he is not a movie star making millions. They are the actors who deserve money and would have killed for a part like Ms. Pfeiffer had in this movie then would have worked hard to make sure people knew about it. Ms. Pfeiffer comes off as GREEDY if this is the case
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on Sept 3, 2018 11:47:05 GMT -8
I'm inclined to see the producers who are the ones to blame here. They clearly had lost (not all, but most) interest in the movie following Sundance, letting it languish for a whole year afterwards before tossing it into the release date wasteland with a deal that was never going to benefit anyone. I can see how offended Michelle would have felt by this, that a project she spent a year on working with the director prior to filming was more or less discarded by the very people meant to champion it. I can also see her feeling even more offended by the same producers crawling back to her after seeing how the critical media responded to Michelle's work with the hopes of an awards campaign. I can see her feeling like: "Oh NOW you believe in the film?! Where was that belief when you decided on a shitty deal and even shittier release date?! I'm done!"
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Post by GOYANKEES718 on Sept 3, 2018 11:58:04 GMT -8
The producers at fault? NO because Rhea and Christine were trying to land a distribution deal. Most studios wanted a television launch these producers fought to land a theatrical release; blame these studios not these producers for it taking that long
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Post by GOYANKEES718 on Sept 3, 2018 12:13:36 GMT -8
Producers never dictate a release date or strategy for the movies that is all on the distribution company that buys the movie after a studio buys the movie they get to make the calls on promotion, release dates now the producers can negotiate some terms while selling a movie but they really have no power afterward
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Post by johnjohn on Sept 3, 2018 12:24:12 GMT -8
We don't know the facts, so you/we can speculate all you/we want. Pointless discussion.
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Post by Admin on Sept 3, 2018 12:29:58 GMT -8
Okay, I am locking this thread and this thread only, just for a little while. Not because I think anyone said anything wrong, I just agree we don't have the facts to go on and I'm getting a little uncomfortable with the direction this is going. I will re-open if there is news. In the meantime, let's go back to more positive discussions like what we think she will do next, before we all go crazy.
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Post by Admin on Sept 14, 2018 10:53:03 GMT -8
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Post by saran1 on Oct 2, 2018 21:38:46 GMT -8
a person told me no screeners will be sent to voters
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Post by Admin on Oct 2, 2018 22:10:48 GMT -8
a person told me no screeners will be sent to voters I love reading bad news right before bed! Lol. Oh well. It just wasn't meant to be. It's still a very special film and performance.
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Post by morrisseybond on Oct 3, 2018 1:42:21 GMT -8
Time to leave Kyra alone.....
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Post by imadeyoureadthis on Oct 3, 2018 8:47:29 GMT -8
Feels like this movies fate or destiny was sealed when they chose this title for it haha u know what I mean?
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Post by Admin on Oct 10, 2018 9:43:43 GMT -8
This is a Boston Online Critics voter. Happy to see people still have her performance on their minds and hope she can get some critics wins or runner-up mentions:
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Post by dasadbd28 on Oct 18, 2018 6:33:43 GMT -8
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Post by Admin on Oct 18, 2018 7:01:46 GMT -8
What a great surprise to wake up to. Think she'll show up to the ceremony?
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Post by dasadbd28 on Oct 18, 2018 7:04:05 GMT -8
Would be great if she did but considering she has done no promotion for the film at all, I'm not so sure she will.
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Post by michaelh on Oct 18, 2018 7:08:29 GMT -8
Wow. Did not expect this.
She should definitely attend and rethink the lack of promotion / support she's given the film. With this nomination and what we know about her competition (hate that word), a few industry screenings with Q & A's afterward might garner her an Oscar nomination. Admittedly, she is a long shot and we don't know how good other unseen performances may be, but this is a huge shot in the arm for the producers, the film and Michelle.
It's a good day today.
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Post by Admin on Oct 18, 2018 7:50:24 GMT -8
If there is no tension between Pfeiffer and Christine Vachon then I can see Pfeiffer going. Vachon has more than one of her films nominated and she is a staple at these awards. If Vachon is as upset as the other producer seems to be, then I can see Pfeiffer not wanting to go.
There was a small jury who voted for her category. Among them were Mark Harris who raved her performance on Twitter and David Fear who gave her another "career best performance" review for Rolling Stone. So very cool they remembered her.
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Post by saran1 on Oct 18, 2018 7:52:15 GMT -8
MICHELLE!!! congrats so these people submitted the movie afterall haha
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Post by Admin on Oct 18, 2018 8:07:50 GMT -8
MICHELLE!!! congrats so these people submitted the movie afterall haha
Maybe it was your message that got them to submit it?
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