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Post by dasadbd28 on May 16, 2019 14:40:57 GMT -8
Rocket Science have an impressive list of films ready to go in to production. I'm not really sure how the Cannes market works. Do they have a day when they present all their projects to potential distributors? It's been fairly quiet so far on projects getting picked up. All I've heard so far is Roland Emmerich's Moonfall getting sold to Germany and Switzerland but no well known companies as of yet.
Hope these 2 get some good attention.
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Post by ianmic on May 16, 2019 14:45:59 GMT -8
I hope you’re all right. I guess I’m just disappointed. I was super excited when I heard about this project. Michelle and Bening working together. I’m a long time fan and also a fan of actresses of Michelle’s generation. Just not as much But even if they beef up the Amanda role, it’s still Benings show and she has the most interesting character. And even IF they beef up the role, Michelle’s just playing another ice queen and we’ve all seen that before. I became a life long fan by watching Batman Returns on release (I’m sure I’m not the only one) because I was in awe of her performance. And then I watched her back catalogue (Baker Boys, Married to the Mob, even Russia House, Frankie & Johnny... ) and I was even more impressed with her range. But since Dangerous Minds she’s kinda sailed through a lot of stuff. Or gone very BIG. And as she’s got older, she isn’t getting the opportunities. Her last couple of leads have been underwritten (sometimes by design - Kyra, and Cheri - I wasn’t a fan of her interpretation of the character either) but she deserves a hell of a lot better. If it’s an ensemble that’s fine because it is what it is. But playing a secondary role to an actress of her generation pisses me off. Why wasn’t she offered the meatier role?! And yeah I sound negative. But I’m only this passionate because I care so don’t hate on me too much Let’s hope the film & role are better than the book
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Post by dasadbd28 on May 16, 2019 15:02:41 GMT -8
I'm still excited for this one and I like this choice from Michelle - Michelle's 1st Thriller since What Lies Beneath and co-starring in a film with Annette Bening. I don't even mind if it is the Bening show. We'll already have her getting her own leading role in French Exit. Hope they both go in to production this year.
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on May 16, 2019 15:13:20 GMT -8
I dunno, man. I'm always of the belief that the villain is always the flashiest, more interesting and dynamic part...also, every ice queen is just a little bit different. Woman from mother!, Eris from Sinbad and Ingrid from White Oleander are all specifically written with ideologies which I feel are uniquely their's. The way Michelle sees them makes them different enough in her eyes to take on, I feel.
But I agree, there's a part of me holding my breath to see what they do with her character in this; if she's gonna be a secondary lead or a supporting role. Are we talking Wizard of Lies size part or mother! size? I guess all we can do is wait.
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Post by dasadbd28 on May 16, 2019 15:21:18 GMT -8
I dunno either but I think the fact they have announced both Annette and Michelle together to headline the film must mean something. They could of just announced this with Annette only with her having the starring role and announced Michelle later on down the line. They seem to have gone all out to get 2 big actresses to fill these important roles 1st. Guess we will have to wait and see.
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on May 16, 2019 15:35:44 GMT -8
Right! Producers/directors cast their leads and then go on from there. They and the press have made it a bit of a thing that these two have been cast together. Also, I know I said this before, but the plot logline on IMDB makes me think the movie is about them, primarily.
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Post by Admin on May 16, 2019 15:42:30 GMT -8
I hope you’re all right. I guess I’m just disappointed. I was super excited when I heard about this project. Michelle and Bening working together. I’m a long time fan and also a fan of actresses of Michelle’s generation. Just not as much But even if they beef up the Amanda role, it’s still Benings show and she has the most interesting character. And even IF they beef up the role, Michelle’s just playing another ice queen and we’ve all seen that before. I became a life long fan by watching Batman Returns on release (I’m sure I’m not the only one) because I was in awe of her performance. And then I watched her back catalogue (Baker Boys, Married to the Mob, even Russia House, Frankie & Johnny... ) and I was even more impressed with her range. But since Dangerous Minds she’s kinda sailed through a lot of stuff. Or gone very BIG. And as she’s got older, she isn’t getting the opportunities. Her last couple of leads have been underwritten (sometimes by design - Kyra, and Cheri - I wasn’t a fan of her interpretation of the character either) but she deserves a hell of a lot better. If it’s an ensemble that’s fine because it is what it is. But playing a secondary role to an actress of her generation pisses me off. Why wasn’t she offered the meatier role?! And yeah I sound negative. But I’m only this passionate because I care so don’t hate on me too much Let’s hope the film & role are better than the book I'm okay with Bening being the focus, just as long as Pfeiffer has enough to do. I also think she's at her best when she's playing an Ice Queen. I think they offered Bening the lead probably because she's a bit older, I don't know. I also think people still think Pfeiffer is too good looking to play certain roles.
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Post by Admin on May 16, 2019 15:43:27 GMT -8
French Exit was in the last two editions of Production Weekly and now today, Turn of Mind is in the new issue. I really wish we could find someone with a subscription or someone willing to sign up, but it's so much damn money.
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on May 16, 2019 15:59:59 GMT -8
I hope you’re all right. I guess I’m just disappointed. I was super excited when I heard about this project. Michelle and Bening working together. I’m a long time fan and also a fan of actresses of Michelle’s generation. Just not as much But even if they beef up the Amanda role, it’s still Benings show and she has the most interesting character. And even IF they beef up the role, Michelle’s just playing another ice queen and we’ve all seen that before. I became a life long fan by watching Batman Returns on release (I’m sure I’m not the only one) because I was in awe of her performance. And then I watched her back catalogue (Baker Boys, Married to the Mob, even Russia House, Frankie & Johnny... ) and I was even more impressed with her range. But since Dangerous Minds she’s kinda sailed through a lot of stuff. Or gone very BIG. And as she’s got older, she isn’t getting the opportunities. Her last couple of leads have been underwritten (sometimes by design - Kyra, and Cheri - I wasn’t a fan of her interpretation of the character either) but she deserves a hell of a lot better. If it’s an ensemble that’s fine because it is what it is. But playing a secondary role to an actress of her generation pisses me off. Why wasn’t she offered the meatier role?! And yeah I sound negative. But I’m only this passionate because I care so don’t hate on me too much Let’s hope the film & role are better than the book I'm okay with Bening being the focus, just as long as Pfeiffer has enough to do. I also think she's at her best when she's playing an Ice Queen. I think they offered Bening the lead probably because she's a bit older, I don't know. I also think people still think Pfeiffer is too good looking to play certain roles. Yea, I'm not ready to see Michelle play someone with dementia yet ha ha
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Post by imadeyoureadthis on May 16, 2019 21:41:41 GMT -8
I wasn’t a fan of the book. The mystery and Amanda’s character are an underwhelming suplot with an even more underwhelming resolution. Amanda only appears in about 4-5 of the protagonists memories, but she is mentioned a lot because of the murder. I’m sure (or maybe hope) the role will be beefed up for the film. The book is only of interest because it’s told from the unreliable POV of someone with Alzheimer’s, her tragic interaction with her family, who she remembers less and less, and her sometimes believing that she’s her younger self. And I’m not sure how well that will translate to film.
I was gonna buy this book hmmmm maybe just will wait and watch the movie first then go back and read the book to see what they did change n see which was better
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Post by michaelh on May 17, 2019 5:18:59 GMT -8
I'm not going to bail on a film before it's even gone before the cameras.
Clearly, Rocket Science got funding because there are two huge names above the title. Their chances of selling it to a reputable distributor hinges on star power, name recognition and the critical cache that both actresses possess. Could Melanie Griffith and Sharon Stone have gotten a green light? No, I don't think so.
My feeling is Pfeiffer wants to do good films and she wants to work with talented artists like Bening. She wants challenging roles in well written films that feature strong roles for women. In this case, I'd be willing to bet they beefed up her character to entice her participation and have given her some juicy scenes to play. I also don't think she's right for the Bening character based on the synopsis. I care about screen time and her character being given sufficient attention, but I also care about seeing her in a flashy, unsympathetic role in a thriller.
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on May 17, 2019 11:33:53 GMT -8
I'm curious if her character's time in the movie is gonna be more A Thousand Acres or more White Oleander. Even tho Rose is a larger role than Ingrid, Ingrid is the more interesting part, showing what she and the script can do with a character who comes second to the lead. I'll be happy if her role in Turn of Mind lies on either end of this spectrum, quite frankly
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on May 17, 2019 11:39:41 GMT -8
I'm not going to bail on a film before it's even gone before the cameras. Clearly, Rocket Science got funding because there are two huge names above the title. Their chances of selling it to a reputable distributor hinges on star power, name recognition and the critical cache that both actresses possess. Could Melanie Griffith and Sharon Stone have gotten a green light? No, I don't think so. My feeling is Pfeiffer wants to do good films and she wants to work with talented artists like Bening. She wants challenging roles in well written films that feature strong roles for women. In this case, I'd be willing to bet they beefed up her character to entice her participation and have given her some juicy scenes to play. I also don't think she's right for the Bening character based on the synopsis. I care about screen time and her character being given sufficient attention, but I also care about seeing her in a flashy, unsympathetic role in a thriller. Her Maleficent participation lso serves as proof of her wanting to work with different, acclaimed artists while also taking on strong female roles. I love how that's always been her M.O. I also love how she feels she is able to move freely between these kinds of projects. The Maleficent poster was a realization for me, seeing her up there reinforced her prominence in the industry in my eyes and the fact that she can go from something like that, to something like this and lead another film (French Exit) AS the lead in another strong female role, well...I guess it means she knows what she's doing lol Oh gosh, Griffith probably wouldn't even be able to get a meeting lol
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Post by Admin on May 20, 2019 9:59:49 GMT -8
Rocket Science have an impressive list of films ready to go in to production. I'm not really sure how the Cannes market works. Do they have a day when they present all their projects to potential distributors? It's been fairly quiet so far on projects getting picked up. All I've heard so far is Roland Emmerich's Moonfall getting sold to Germany and Switzerland but no well known companies as of yet. Hope these 2 get some good attention. I just read an article about the new Roman Polanski film that is being shopped around at Cannes, for that one it sounds like they just invited a bunch of execs and distributors to view stills and listen to a presentation at a special location. Not sure if that's how it works for all projects.
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Post by dasadbd28 on May 20, 2019 11:54:50 GMT -8
I take it Thorsten Schumacher will be there from Rocket Science. Azazel Jacobs and Gideon Raff might even be there pitching the films. I see FilmNation has pretty much sold all their films with Down Under Cover, Operation Mincemeat, and Misanthrope all being sold. Shailene Woodley and Colin Firth were also both there to promote their films it looks like. Would be great if Michelle rocked up to promote the films but I highly doubt it.
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Post by imadeyoureadthis on May 20, 2019 17:42:48 GMT -8
Gettin scared this is 1 of those movies that is announced then we never hear about it again haha
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on May 20, 2019 18:21:50 GMT -8
Can't think like that lol But I get the fear...I'm hoping French Exit isn't another Cheri and Turn of Mind isn't another Personal Effects lol I mean, I like both those films, but I want better treatment and recognition of her work than those films got.
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Post by morrisseybond on May 20, 2019 18:28:26 GMT -8
LOL Stop worry too much and enjoy whatever comes.
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Post by johnjohn on May 21, 2019 11:55:39 GMT -8
LOL Stop worry too much and enjoy whatever comes. You said it Bond, you're the best!
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Post by imadeyoureadthis on May 21, 2019 18:12:36 GMT -8
LOL Stop worry too much and enjoy whatever comes.
Thank u for laughing at me and by the way I can feel however I wanna feel
theres always movie projects in the news that get me excited and they sometimes dont get made I want to see this one get made and Mich has had movie projects in the news that dont get made so its frustrating
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on May 21, 2019 18:35:01 GMT -8
I think the pedigree of the ppl behind these movies are higher than the ones Michelle was attached to that didn't get made, at least most of them. I get the concern, but I think there's more hope this time around. Bening might actually be a lucky charm here since I dunno HOW some of the movies she's attached to end up getting made, yet they do somehow
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Post by roald on May 21, 2019 23:55:42 GMT -8
I agree, Babyface. With Bening on board I think it's likely that this film will be made.
Oh, and I'm looking forward to this one, I mean how long is it since we saw Pfeiffer in a thriller? Would that be when What Lies Beneath came out in 2000, which is like 20 years ago?
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Post by dasadbd28 on May 22, 2019 11:09:42 GMT -8
I wouldn't worry too much if we don't hear of any deals during Cannes for these films. It won't necessarily mean they haven't been picked up. Both films have been financed. French Exit will be next but hopefully this will also happen not long after.
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on May 22, 2019 11:23:30 GMT -8
That’s true. I think the reason Man Under never happened is cuz the money never came together, from what I remember anyhow
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Post by michaelh on May 23, 2019 4:12:13 GMT -8
That’s true. I think the reason Man Under never happened is cuz the money never came together, from what I remember anyhow I think you'e right about Man Under. The biggest disasters distribution wise were You Could Never Be My Woman and Kyra. Good films that were barely released to theaters. Cheri as a film was more of a disappointment to me than those two. I don't think Cheri got much in the way of marketing and promotion either, but it was a mixed film. I thought Michelle was miscast, although she was quite good at the end. Personal Effects - let's give her a pass on that one because she got to canoodle with what's his name. That Kutcher fella.
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on May 23, 2019 15:54:26 GMT -8
For me, I rank the distribution disasters this way...
Where is Kyra?- Just the wrong, wrong distributor. They tried, but they're just too new and green to the game to know how to market a film like this. I Could Never Be Your Woman- due to the amount of advance press that had gone out which Michelle had done and the additional press that was reported (that EW article) when the movie kept missing release dates after the MGM deal went bust and the amount of money set aside for post-production, marketing ran dry. Personal Effects- Similar situation with Woman with the exceptions here being a lower profile director, not as much negative press and advance home video sales scaring off distributors who wouldn't touch it. Cheri- Bad luck of being one of the last releases from a studio on life support and on its way out with no one there really trying beyond the minimum in terms of marketing and release. Same case with the other three releases they put out that year.
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Dark Shadows- I STILL feel that movie would have had a better shot had it not been the first new release after The Avengers. That movie, despite its problems, would have had an actual shot as an October release. May was a terrible decision, especially THAT weekend in May. People Like Us- Same as DS. There's no reason that should have come out on 4th of July weekend and been forced to compete with Magic Mike and Ted...that was just painful. It was the perfect movie for August/September when the market is less crowded and movies like that have something of a chance to be discovered.
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Post by Admin on May 24, 2019 15:39:01 GMT -8
I think ICNBYW will always be the worst situation. It was just a mess. Scott Rudin left the project, MGM dropped it and that Bauer Martinez guy was a joke and trashed her in the press. Doesn't get much worse than that.
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Post by Admin on May 24, 2019 15:41:55 GMT -8
I wouldn't worry too much if we don't hear of any deals during Cannes for these films. It won't necessarily mean they haven't been picked up. Both films have been financed. French Exit will be next but hopefully this will also happen not long after. Cannes is almost over but we could still get news shortly after, never know. I would imagine though, since both this and French Exit haven't even started filming yet, that makes potential buyers more hesitant, they might want to see actual footage first? Who knows.
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Post by babyfacedassassin24 on Jun 1, 2019 10:35:16 GMT -8
Was Rocket Science gonna be behind this film? On the IMDB page, it doesn't have them listed under the production companies section. Only The Jackal Group is there.
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Post by michaelh on Jun 1, 2019 11:33:17 GMT -8
Was Rocket Science gonna be behind this film? On the IMDB page, it doesn't have them listed under the production companies section. Only The Jackal Group is there. This is what Variety reported last month. "Rocket Science will finance the film and launch international sales at Cannes next week. CAA Media Finance represents the U.S. domestic rights. The script for “Turn of Mind,” based on Alice LaPlante’s New York Times bestseller of the same name, has been adapted by Pulitzer Prize winner Doug Wright. The story centers on a retired orthopedic doctor suffering from Alzheimer’s who is trying to figure out – in her moments of clarity – if she killed the person the police claim she had, or if she’s being deceived. Producers are Raff, Gail Berman through The Jackal Group and Well Told Entertainment’s Rory Koslow. Raff is the creator of the Israeli series “Prisoners of War.” The American adaptation, “Homeland” starring Claire Danes and Mandy Patinkin, is going into its eighth season."
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